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Sådan skriver man et indlæg på Landsbybrønden[redigér]

  1. Tryk på rediger
  2. Gå til redigeringsfeltet og indsæt
    {{Brønd|Overskrift=Overskrift for emne}}
    under alle de andre indlæg og gem siden.
  3. Gå til bunden af siden og tryk på et af de røde links der svarer til dit nye indlæg
  4. Skriv dit indlæg, du skal starte med overskriften:
    == Overskrift for emne ==
  5. Gem siden

Benyt ikke det rediger-link der er nederst på Landsbybrønden. Det vil placere dit indlæg sammen med den hidtil nyeste men uvedkommende diskussion.

Hvis ovenstående giver dig problemer, så gør du det bare så godt du kan, så kommer der sikkert en mere rutineret bruger og retter det til for dig.

Se også den detaljerede vejledning.


Arkiverede debatter[redigér]

Kronologiske arkiver[redigér]

Samtlige debatter på Wiktionary:Landsbybrønden, arkiveret mere eller mindre kronologisk.

  • Arkiv 1 - usorteret - 12. maj 2005 - 19. juli 2007
  • Arkiv 2 - usorteret - feb. 2008 - nov. 2009
  • Arkiv 3 - usorteret - jan. 2010 -

Indlæg fra robotter[redigér]

Her arkiveres globale beskeder, indsat direkte på Wiktionary:Landsbybrønden af en robot.

  • Akiv 1 - usorteret - 23. juli 2013 -



function showSeeAlso()[redigér]

Finds er mulighed automatisering av skabelonen
{{også|...}}
Se [1]. Ville anvende her? Bedsten (diskussion) 29. apr 2014, 12:05 (UTC)
Hvad indebærer den funktion?
- Sarrus (db) d. 10. maj 2014, 10:15 (UTC)
Hvis er i side Vorlage_Siehe_auch (Skabelon_også) vis Skabelon_også.
Medmindre ikke er in side Vorlage_Siehe_auch (Skabelon_også) og der er to siden som adskiller sig genom minuskel og majuskel vis ... . Bedsten (diskussion) 12. maj 2014, 05:13 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Støtter Tyskeren (diskussion) 10. aug 2016, 12:29 (UTC)


Wikimania 2016 Scholarships - Deadline soon![redigér]

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A reminder - applications for scholarships for Wikimania 2016 in Esino Lario, Italy, are closing soon! Please get your applications in by January 9th. To apply, visit the page below:

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2016 WMF Strategy consultation[redigér]

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Hello, all.

The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has launched a consultation to help create and prioritize WMF strategy beginning July 2016 and for the 12 to 24 months thereafter. This consultation will be open, on Meta, from 18 January to 26 February, after which the Foundation will also use these ideas to help inform its Annual Plan. (More on our timeline can be found on that Meta page.)

Your input is welcome (and greatly desired) at the Meta discussion, 2016 Strategy/Community consultation.

Apologies for English, where this is posted on a non-English project. We thought it was more important to get the consultation translated as much as possible, and good headway has been made there in some languages. There is still much to do, however! We created m:2016 Strategy/Translations to try to help coordinate what needs translation and what progress is being made. :)

If you have questions, please reach out to me on my talk page or on the strategy consultation's talk page or by email to mdennis@wikimedia.org.

I hope you'll join us! Maggie Dennis via MediaWiki message delivery (diskussion) 18. jan 2016, 19:07 (UTC)

Wikimedia hovedpunkter, december 2015[redigér]

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Wikimedia-hovedpunkter, januar 2016[redigér]

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Ændring af skabeloner for køn[redigér]

Jeg påtænker at ændre skabelonerne: {{m}}, {{f}}, {{n}}, {{c}}, så "outputtet" bliver hankøn, hunkøn, intetkøn og fælleskøn. --HenrikKbh (diskussion) 25. mar 2016, 09:05 (UTC)

Ingen indvendinger. --Olelog (diskussion) 25. mar 2016, 10:44 (UTC)
Det vil være mere læservenligt at bruge de danske betegnelser, omend vi jo også bruger fagtermer til angivelse af ordklasserne (f.eks. substantiv og verbum). Vær desuden opmærksom på, at skabelonerne for køn også bruges i oversættelsesoversigterne. Hvis der er flere oversættelser af det samme ord, kommer oversættelserne til at fylde mere, hvis der skal stå f.eks. hankøn, hunkøn, intetkøn eller fælleskøn mellem alle ordene i stedet for m, f, n eller c. Bør vi måske overveje at have en oversigt over, hvad fagtermerne betyder på dansk?
- Sarrus (db) d. 25. mar 2016, 10:57 (UTC)

Jeg prøver. Hvis det går galt, kan jeg nemt rette det tilbage. -HenrikKbh (diskussion) 14. jul 2016, 06:18 (UTC)


Artikelanmodninger[redigér]

Wiktionary:Artikelanmodninger[redigér]

Hello, everyone at the Danish Wiktionary. @User:Tyskeren, User:Sarrus, User:HenrikKbh, User:ContraVentum, User:Gamren, and User:Olelog. I am today bringing up the issue of the page Wiktionary:Artikelanmodninger. Sorry that I can't translate this paragraph into good Danish right now. But feel free to speak Danish in this discussion, as I'll still be able to understand it; I'm just bad with grammar and picking the right word to use and such. Philmonte101 (diskussion) 6. aug 2016, 11:35 (UTC)

So anyway, I created this page on another account (RSY) a few years back. I broke a Danish rule when creating this page, I said "artikel anmodninger", which is incorrect, it's supposed to be "artikelanmodninger". I apologize for this and for not ever fixing it.

I intended for this page to be a place where you can use subpages and such to enter in an alleged entry, have a native Danish user go in and check the entry, and then you add it to the dictionary. For example, Wiktionary:Artikelanmodninger/laminectomia is a request I made for the Italian word "laminectomia". I entered text in Artikelanmodninger as if I was going to make an entry about it, and was waiting for an admin or other experienced Danish speaker to go in and check and make sure my translation of "laminectomia" to Danish was correct. Then, after that would be done, I'd enter it into the dictionary as laminectomia.

Other Wiktionaries have all sorts of different kinds of request systems I imagine. I'd rather not get rid of this one, since I like it quite a bit. But I wonder if we can make Wiktionary:Artikelanmodninger a more well-known thing here, something that's linked to in the community a lot, from other Wiktionary namespace pages.

To sum this all up, I just want to know if there's anything else we should do to this page. How can we extend it? Where can we link to it? Can we have active users have this page and subpages on their watchlist? I think a request system would be great for the Danish Wiktionary, as it is lacking in many areas, and if someone doesn't know how to add an entry for whatever reason, they can put it on the list, or make an alleged entry. So, what do you think? Philmonte101 (diskussion) 6. aug 2016, 01:09 (UTC)


Open Call for Individual Engagement Grants[redigér]

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With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 31. mar 2016, 15:47 (UTC)

Indlogning[redigér]

Jeg kan ikke længere logge ind, men får denne besked: "Exception encountered, of type "Exception" . Hvad er der sket? Med venlig hilsen Olelog.

Kan atter logge på --Olelog (diskussion) 18. apr 2016, 05:54 (UTC)

Går inte att redigera två gånger den här veckan[redigér]

Wikimedia Foundation tester sit nyeste datacenter i Dallas. Dette vil sikre, at Wikipedia og de øvrige Wikimedia-wikier fortsat vil fungere, også selvom der skulle indtræffe en katastrofe. For at forsikre sig om, at alt virker, er det nødvendigt for Wikimedias teknologiafdeling at gennemføre en planlagt test. Denne test vil vise, om de er i stand til at foretage et pålideligt skift fra ét datacenter til det andet. Det kræver mange grupper at forberede testen og at være klar til at rette eventuelle uforudsete problemer.

De vil flytte al trafik til det nye datacenter tirsdag 19. april.
Torsdag 21. april vil de skifte tilbage til det primære datacenter.

På grund af nogle begrænsninger i MediaWiki må al redigering desværre stoppe under de to flytninger. Vi undskylder for denne forstyrrelse, og vi arbejder på at minimere den slags fremover.

Du vil stadig have mulighed for at læse, men ikke redigere, alle wikier i en begrænset periode.

  • Du vil ikke kunne redigere i et sted mellem 15 og 30 minutter, henholdsvis tirsdag 19. april og torsdag 21. april, med start kl. 14.00 UTC (kl. 16.00 CEST (dansk tid), kl. 10.00 EDT, kl. 7.00 PDT).
  • Hvis du forsøger at redigere eller gemme rettelser i disse to perioder, vil du få en fejlmeddelelse. Vi håber, at der ikke vil gå nogle redigeringer tabt i løbet af disse minutter, men vi kan ikke garantere det. Hvis du får en sådan fejlmeddelelse, beder vi dig om at vente, til situationen er tilbage til den normale igen. Derpå skulle du være i stand til at gemme din redigering. For en sikkerheds skyld anbefaler vi dog, at du tager en kopi af dine ændringer først. /Johan (WMF) (diskussion) 17. apr 2016, 21:42 (UTC)

Hovedpunkter fra Wikimedia, marts 2016[redigér]

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Compact Links coming soon to this wiki[redigér]

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Hello, I wanted to give a heads up about an upcoming feature for this wiki which you may seen already in the Tech News. Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). This will be enabled as a feature in the soon for all users, which can be turned on or off using a preference setting. We look forward to your feedback and please do let us know if you have any questions. Details about Compact Language Links can be read in the project documentation.

Due to the large scale enablement of this feature, we have had to use MassMessage for this announcement and as a result it is only written in English. We will really appreciate if this message can be translated for other users of this wiki. The main announcement can also be translated on this page. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team: Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk)-29. jun 2016, 13:06 (UTC)

Compact Language Links enabled in this wiki today[redigér]

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Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). Based on several factors, this shorter list of languages is expected to be more relevant for them and valuable for finding similar content in a language known to them. More information about compact language links can be found in the documentation.

From today onwards, compact language links has been enabled as the default listing of interlanguage links on this wiki. However, using the button at the bottom, you will be able to see a longer list of all the languages the article has been written in. The setting for this compact list can be changed by using the checkbox under User Preferences -> Appearance -> Languages

The compact language links feature has been tested extensively by the Wikimedia Language team, which developed it. However, in case there are any problems or other feedback please let us know on the project talk page. It is to be noted that on some wikis the presence of an existing older gadget that was used for a similar purpose may cause an interference for compact language list. We would like to bring this to the attention of the admins of this wiki. Full details are on this phabricator ticket (in English).

Due to the large scale enablement of this feature, we have had to use MassMessage for this announcement and as a result it is only written in English. We will really appreciate if this message can be translated for other users of this wiki. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team: Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk)-1. jul 2016, 03:05 (UTC)

Open call for Project Grants[redigér]

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Greetings! The Project Grants program is accepting proposals from July 1st to August 2nd to fund new tools, research, offline outreach (including editathon series, workshops, etc), online organizing (including contests), and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers.
Whether you need a small or large amount of funds, Project Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.
Also accepting candidates to join the Project Grants Committee through July 15.
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Ændring af skabelon pronun[redigér]

Jeg påtænker at ændre skabelonen {{-pronun-}} (udtale), så den i stedet for at være en overskrift fire, er en overskrift tre.

Grunden er at hvis man har flere ordklasser i en artikel, eks. både et substantiv og et verbum, kommer udtalen til at stå som et underpunkt til den ene underklasse, selvom den retteligt er ens for begge ordklasser. Et eksempel kan ses her: brûlé.

-HenrikKbh (diskussion) 14. jul 2016, 06:30 (UTC)

Ingen protester herfra. Måske hører udtalen hjemme øverst i opslaget, før ordklasserne, sammen med (altså lige før eller lige efter) etymologi-afsnittet. Et problem kunne måske være, hvis udtalen afhænger af ordklassen, men det er måske aldrig tilfældet?
- Sarrus (db) d. 14. jul 2016, 14:01 (UTC)


Save/Publish[redigér]

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 9. aug 2016, 18:02 (UTC)

Initiating SOP rules[redigér]

My motive is from the false entry the American dream which everyone here is unfortunately defending. I am American and I am a native English speaker; they should be listening to me rather than treating my opinion on the matter as "vandalism".

Anywho, in this example, the more common capitalization for the term is American Dream, and adding "the" beforehand just makes it a sum-of-parts term, as you can find the definition for the separately from American Dream.

Please refer to the English Wiktionary's policy on SOPs, as follows:

"An expression is idiomatic if its full meaning cannot be easily derived from the meaning of its separate components. Non-idiomatic expressions are called sum-of-parts (SOP).

For example, this is a door is not idiomatic, but shut up and red herring are."

We need official policy on this here. Let's have a vote. @User:Bedsten, @User:First jumper

Feel free to speak either Danish or English with me here, since I can read both very well, but I am going to stick with writing in English on my side since my Danish grammar is too poor and I'd be embarrassing myself most of the time. Philmonte101 (diskussion) 31. aug 2016, 11:31 (UTC)

The entry has a reference to http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/american where "the American dream" is mentioned as a phrase. Existing words and phrases should be allowed. At least if they are confirmed by a reliable source. And please remember, that this is not enwiktionary.
- Sarrus (db) d. 31. aug 2016, 14:07 (UTC)
The fact that it is mentioned in Oxford doesn't make it any less SOP. Do you think we should have entries like green tree that literally just mean green + tree? It is the same thing here. "the" is just a modifier in this case. In English, we don't include "the" within a proper noun or a noun. For instance, instead of saying "I'm going to The United States", we'd say "I'm going to the United States." "the" at the beginning of a term is not generally a component of a proper noun or a common noun. Therefore, it's SOP. I wouldn't mind a redirect from the American Dream to American Dream, but I'd like to keep American Dream as the lemma form.
Anyway, enough about that entry. My point in this discussion is that we at dawiktionary need an official policy guideline about multiple-worded entries being sums of parts. We simply can't include things like green tree, Danish king, American worker, etc., unless they have some idiomatic meaning besides green + tree, Danish + king, etc. Philmonte101 (diskussion) 31. aug 2016, 20:24 (UTC)

✘ nej, ikke nødvendig. Bedsten (diskussion) 1. sep 2016, 06:40 (UTC)

Denne her side hedder Diskussion:Forside og det er fordi den skal bruges til at diskutere hvad der skal stå på forsiden. Forslag til regler for hvad der skal være artikler om skal diskuteres på Landsbybrønden. Kinamand (diskussion) 1. sep 2016, 12:23 (UTC)

Bruger:Kinamand, okay, I've moved it. Philmonte101 (diskussion) 2. sep 2016, 00:24 (UTC)
User:Bedsten, why do you think this is "not necessary" to include? The fact is that, if the entire Wiktionary project (yes, in all the languages) is still running and popular for at least another 40 years, which I see as pretty likely, then the Danish Wiktionary will one day, but very slowly, be in the millions as far as our entry count goes, especially since there may be more Danish users interested in participating as time goes by. So let's just say, for the sake of argument, that 10 years from now, instead of about 8 come-and-go users here, there will be 20 or more active and daily users in the Danish Wiktionary.
Now, as you all know, Danish is a Germanic language, which means virtually any combination of two common nouns is always a compound, unlike English, which usually represents two nouns put together with two words, deeming that term SOP. For example, filmproduktion is synonymous in English to film production (though also to filmmaking). mellemkrigsår literally means interwar year in English. brugerdiskussionside literally means user talk page. filmskole just means film school. substantivform just means noun form. bøjningsform just means inflected form. I could name countless more. But, my point is, most one-word entries, regardless of whether it's a compound or an inflected form or whatnot, should always be included as long as it is attestable with 3 durably archived citations. This means that, as painstaking as it can be, all these Danish compounds should, theoretically, eventually be here on dawiktionary. However, when we have more of these noun compounds, there will be some Danish user in an estimated ten years, let's just say for the sake of argument, with less knowledge about English or linguistics or whatever than they should, who starts adding countless SOP terms, such as noun form (noun + form), inflected form (inflected + form), user talk page (user + talk page [yes, talk page is not SOP]), interwar year (interwar + year), film school (film + school), film production (film + production), health code violation (health + code + violation), wiki vandalism (wiki + vandalism). I could literally spend the rest of my life's time naming countless more two-worded or three-worded terms like these, that, under the current lack of policy, could potentially be created. So, do you really think this is a good thing? Heck, I'd probably leave the (Danish) project if I couldn't get all those deleted after their creation by some user who does this. So, why not just instate a policy here about idiomacity while we still can, before some massive attack like that happens. Philmonte101 (diskussion) 2. sep 2016, 00:24 (UTC)
Jeg ser ingen problemer i at have opslag om filmproduktion og mellemkrigsår, som du nævner. Har der været et reelt problem med dette på enwiktionary, eller er det et potentielt problem, som man tager højde for på forhånd? Hvis der oprettes opslag som f.eks. sur mand, bør den nok (hvis den ønskes slettet) en tur rundt om Wiktionary:Sider der bør slettes, før den evt. slettes og ikke slettes on sight.
- Sarrus (db) d. 2. sep 2016, 13:52 (UTC)
The purpose of policy is to preserve peace. Here there is no discord because of "SOP"s. ✘ No, we don't need official policy. First jumper (diskussion) 5. sep 2016, 04:06 (UTC)
✘ Nej, jeg ser heller ikke nogen grund til at indføre den foreslåede regel. Kinamand (diskussion) 5. sep 2016, 11:03 (UTC)
@ User:First jumper So are you saying that if someone creates film school, wiki vandalism, green tree, brown leaf, health code violation, and many more similar entries, that there would still be "no discord"? And what if the same user continued making these entries for months? PseudoSkull (diskussion) 5. sep 2016, 13:59 (UTC)
Jeg føler ikke noget behov for sådan en side. --Olelog (diskussion) 6. sep 2016, 06:23 (UTC)



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Birgit Müller (WMDE) 12. sep 2016, 14:56 (UTC)

Wikidata for Wiktionary: let’s get ready for lexicographical data![redigér]

Hello all,

Sorry for writing this message in English, please feel free to translate it in your own language below.

The Wikidata development team will start working on integrating lexicographical data in the knowledge base soon and we want to make sure we do this together with you.

Wikidata is a constantly evolving project and after four years of existence, we start with implementing support for Wiktionary editors and content, by allowing you to store and improve lexicographical data, in addition to the concepts already maintained by thousands of editors on Wikidata.

We have been working on this idea for almost three years and improving it with a lot of inputs from community members to understand Wiktionary processes.

Starting this project, we hope that the editors will be able to collaborate across Wiktionaries more easily. We expect to increase the number of editors and visibility of languages, and we want to provide the groundwork for new tools for editors.

Our development plan contains several phases in order to build the structure to include lexicographical data:

  • creating automatic interwiki links on Wiktionary,
  • creating new entity types for lexemes, senses, and forms on Wikidata,
  • providing data access to Wikidata from Wiktionary
  • improving the display of lexicographical information on Wikidata.

During the next months, we will do our best to provide you the technical structure to store lexicographical data on Wikidata and use it on Wiktionary. Don’t hesitate to discuss this within your local community, and give us feedback about your needs and the particularities of your languages.

Information about supporting lexicographical entities on Wikidata is available on this page. You can find an overview of the project, the detail of the development plan, answers to frequently asked questions, and a list of people ready to help us. If you want to have general discussions and questions about the project, please use the general talk page, as we won’t be able to follow all the talk pages on Wiktionaries. If you don’t feel comfortable with English, you can write in your own language and hopefully someone will volunteer to translate.

Bests regards, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk)

Grants to improve your project[redigér]

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Greetings! The Project Grants program is currently accepting proposals for funding. There is just over a week left to submit before the October 11 deadline. If you have ideas for software, offline outreach, research, online community organizing, or other projects that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers, start your proposal today! Please encourage others who have great ideas to apply as well. Support is available if you want help turning your idea into a grant request.

I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 30. sep 2016, 20:11 (UTC)

Creative Commons 4.0[redigér]

Hej! Jeg skriver fra Wikimediafonden for at indbyde dig til at give din feedback på et forslag om at flytte fra CC BY-SA 3.0 til en CC BY-SA 4.0 licens på tværs af alle Wikimediaprojekter. Forespørgslen er åben fra den 5. oktober til den 8. november, og vi håber på at få en bred vifte af synspunkter og holdninger. Hvis du er interesseret, så vær venlig at deltage i diskussionen på Meta-Wiki. Joe Sutherland 6. okt 2016, 00:08 (UTC)

Password reset[redigér]

I apologise that this message is in English. ⧼Centralnotice-shared-help-translate⧽

We are having a problem with attackers taking over wiki accounts with privileged user rights (for example, admins, bureaucrats, oversighters, checkusers). It appears that this may be because of weak or reused passwords.

Community members are working along with members of multiple teams at the Wikimedia Foundation to address this issue.

In the meantime, we ask that everyone takes a look at the passwords they have chosen for their wiki accounts. If you know that you've chosen a weak password, or if you've chosen a password that you are using somewhere else, please change those passwords.

Select strong passwords – eight or more characters long, and containing letters, numbers, and punctuation. Joe Sutherland (diskussion) / MediaWiki message delivery (diskussion) 13. nov 2016, 23:59 (UTC)

Adding to the above section (Password reset)[redigér]

Please accept my apologies - that first line should read "Help with translations!". Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) / MediaWiki message delivery (diskussion) 14. nov 2016, 00:11 (UTC)